Frequently Asked Questions
| 1U619-() / 1U661-() Radio Control Panels | |
| Q: | We  are currently making studies on Mode S transponder retrofits for some Cessna  Citations including C500, 502, and 550. Since some of these airplanes have your  digital radio panel installed,  we need  to come with a solution for Mode S transponder (mostly Collins TDR-94D –007)  with elementary surveillance (Flight ID) functionality for the European airspace.  Do you offer a replacement controller for the existing transponder controller installed  in your radio panel? Currently installed: P/N 1U619-001, -002, and –003. If you  have a solution for Mode S elementary surveillance, please let me know some  details. Lead time and pricing. Otherwise we would have to replace the complete  radio panel and install individual Collins controls. This would be very costly  and the customers would not be very happy to remove a two year old radio panel.  There is not much time for the Mode S. Due to an extension of the mandate, we  have good luck. Definitely by March 2004 (sic), all these airplanes have to be  compliant.  | 
           
| A: | Thank  you for your e-mail, and we can understand why your customer would be upset if  he had to replace his 1U619-001 after only two years of service. Working in  conjunction with Cessna (Wichita, KS), we have decided for many good reasons  that to accommodate a new Mode S transponder (and perhaps TCAS) it would be  best to modify the 1U619-001 RCP by replacing the ATC transponder function with  that of an ADF. This would allow either of the Collins or Honeywell control  heads to be installed in the location vacated by the ADF. There are several  benefits with this approach. First, there would be fewer potential problems  during system integration. We have always assured compatibility between our  control heads and any other manufacturer’s radios, but by using the  manufacturer’s own components, future changes, mods, etc. would be easier and  less expensive to implement. Secondly, the old, mechanical Edo Aire ADF control  head has long been obsolete. We no longer manufacture it nor do we support it  in any way. By removing the antiquated control and replacing it with a fully  supported and warranted digital equivalent, serviceability and full support is  assured. Additional functionality (such as memories, pre-select, etc.) is also  realized. The two Edo Aire part numbers affected are: 156M1 (single), or 152-10  (pre-select). Lastly, it is not practical to replace our 1U619-001 with  individual Collins control heads because of the legacy equipment still onboard.  The two NAV/DME legacy receivers require ARINC 410 ‘2 out of 5’ tuning. Collins  no longer manufactures its original Proline head (which was ‘2 out of 5’), so  you would have to find some on the surplus market. Note that Proline II heads  output CSDB serial data only. Obvious difficulties arise with this approach  including service, warranties, etc, and that’s if you can find an acceptable, used  controller. In fact, it was mainly for this reason that the 1U619-001 was  developed, not just for the two NAV/DME radios but also for the two legacy  transponders (TDR-90) which are tuned with octal, parallel busses.  | 
           
| Q: | We  are modifying a Citation II equipped with your box, adding in particular  TCAS:CAS67.  | 
           
| A: | You asked two distinct questions which I have answered here:
 FJS – 5/19/2003  | 
           
| Q: | We are working on a Cessna Citation 500 that is equipped with the 1U619-002 control panel. We now have to change the built-in Transponder with a new Mode-S transponder. Because this new Mode-S transponder is bigger than the old one and therefore does not fit into the control panel, we want to replace the old transponder with the ADF. We will then mount the Mode-S transponder into the place where the ADF was. Do you have a kit and a service bulletin for replacing the built-in transponder of the 1U619-002 control panel by the ADF? C.M. Mueller, Kuerzi Avionics AG, Flugplatz | 
           
| A: | Thank your for your e-mail. In it you reference a part number 1U619-002. This control panel does not have VHF COMM controls with 8.33 KHz frequency spacing. Perhaps you meant the 1U619-001 which does, and is the panel that we sell mostly to the Europeans. In either case, we are introducing the 1U661-001 and 1U661-002 to replace the 1U619-001 and 1U619-002, respectively. The only difference between the panel types is that the ATC transponder control in the 1U619 –( ) is replaced with an ADF control as you suggested. We are not offering a mod, but you can send in your old 1U619-( ) and we will convert it into a 1U661- ( ) with a new warranty. The cost is about a third of new radio control panel. Contact us again if you have any interest. We can work out an exchange to minimize your down time. Thanks again. FJS – 3/10/04 | 
           
| Q: | We have the following documentation for the Electronic Control Panel 1U619-001 CMM with IPC. P/N: 86M068, Issue 0, 3/28/03. Is this the current version of the manual, and are there any Service Bulletins for the Manual available? M.S., Avionics Inspector, RUAG Aerospace Services GmbH | 
           
| A: | You have the current version of the manual, and there have not been any Service Bulletins issued at this time. Refer to the Documentation for the latest revisions. FJS – 2/10/2004 | 
           
| Q: | Since  we have to evaluate feasibility  to  quote some installation of Mode-S transponder in Cessna Citation 500 we still  require your kind concurrence  in  sending us the following info: simple information about the changes applied to  the new panel such us panel pin out, panel layout, picture of the panel, two  sentences on the differences from the old and the new panel.  | 
           
| A: | The  original mechanical radio control panels were manufactured by Edo Air. The part  number for the Edo control panel was a 1U434-001. The Sigma Tek electronic  replacement is a 1U619-002, and is pin compatible with the mechanical units  except for the requirement of power for the ATC transponder control head. (The  mechanical heads didn’t require aircraft power, but it was available in all  heads via the power on/off switch except for the ATC. This requires the  addition of two wires.)  | 
           
| Q: | Do you know if Cessna is going to issue a Service Bulletin that addresses the Mode-S/TCAS upgrade for the Cessna 550? T.G., Advanced Avionics Systems | 
           
| A: | Yes,  the  Cessna Service Bulletin numbers are listed below.  | 
           



